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Sunday, July 12, 2015

[Update] KCSC to review 'Show Me the Money 4' for Song Minho's controversial lyrics


Article: Korea Communications Standards Commission "We will be reviewing the misogynist lyrics on 'Show Me the Money 4'"

Source:
Star News via Naver

1. [+382, -37] The program's just hopeless.. Korea's hip hop losers are hopeless... none of them have talent and they're all just military evading druggies.

2. [+319, -20] He really did go too far ㅋ The producers only bleep out swears when they should be mosaicing out the lyrics to stuf like this

3. [+281, -21] Can we please ban swearing on broadcast too? Why is "motherf****" allowed on TV?

4. [+278, -24] He obviously wanted to look cool and come up with something provocative while sticking to his rhyme so the best he could come up with was this ㅋ

5. [+85, -9] He has to be insane to think those lyrics were okay. I'm sure you'd love it if your daughter was treated like that.

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Article: 'Show Me the Money' Makjang rapper and makjang producers

Source:
Sports World via Nate

1. [+427, -27] Seems like this journalist has some balls considering all of the articles about Song Minho's scandal were taken off the rankings but he's bringing it back up. I liked Minho for being masculine but to find that his perception of women is absolutely trash... you can't let guys like him get off easy. The more you let guys get away with stuff like this, the more dangerous it is for your mother, girlfriend, and daughter in the streets. You have to hate on guys like him and bring him down.

2. [+427, -30] Tryhard rappers. They think rapping lyrics like that make them look cool.

3. [+337, -30] He really should've been more considerate with his lyrics

4. [+49, -1] He's an adult, how does he not know what to say and what not to say? Since when was hip hop about writing horrific lyrics like this?

5. [+36, -0] Hey, that's hip hop culture they say ㅋㅋㅋ do they not realize that things like this is what brings hip hop culture down?

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Article: Mnet 'Show Me the Money' controversial lyrics stir scandal

Source: Yonhap News via Naver

1. [+2,296, -149] To all of you shielding this saying hip hop is always like this and that it's worse in America... you realize that even Snoop Dogg said that he regrets writing misogynistic lyrics after having his own daughter and that he reflected? Even Eminem said he's embarrassed of his older lyrics... Why would you ever fangirl over someone who writes lyrics like this?

2. [+1,798, -106] Yeah, his lyrics were pretty bad...

3. [+1,603, -116] I replied to Sayuri's tweet and a bunch of stupid Winner fans kept shielding Minho ㅋㅋ

4. [+1,357, -105] The producers are psychos and I don't like any of them. I hope the show does go under review.

5. [+1,201, -354] The producers are the problem ㅡㅡ Why would they think that was okay to broadcast? I like Song Minho and hope for him to win but I was horrified after watching the broadcast.

6. [+566, -27] Amazing that someone with a little sister can write lyrics like this

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Pann: YG is the trashiest company and I don't understand their fans

"I'll never understand kids who fangirl over YG. Song Minho told you to spread your legs and you still want to fangirl him? He probably doesn't even see his fans as fans but stupid fangirls. Just think of all the other dirty thoughts that are in his mind; not only was the gynecologist analogy problematic but the fact that he even demanded for girls to spread their legs makes him a psycho."

1. [+213, -21] Whenever idols from smaller agencies like Block B or Girl's Day get into a scandal, they apologize as a group but YG doesn't care ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Yang CEO doesn't pick trainees off of character but star potential and talent ㅋㅋㅋ

2. [+207, -86] Don't know about the other members but Song Minho and Nam Tae Hyun are enough proof that they're full of criminals. They're really trying to take after Big Bang, huh..

3. [+200, -24] Look at Girl's Day and how they were hated to dust for a live stream broadcast. Whatever they really felt, they bowed their head in apology but YG... I bet they don't even care what anyone has to say (probably thinking bark all you want, I don't care)

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Article: Why is it okay for Song Minho but not for Jang Dong Min?

Source: X Sports News via Nate

1. [+425, -21] Brings up a good question. Why did Jang Dong Min get hate but not Song Minho?

2. [+252, -7] Just what kind of dirty thoughts does he think of any a daily basis that he thought it was okay to rap those lyrics in front of dozens of cameras? And for the judges to be like whoaaa~ as if he said some amazing punch line and applaud that? Amazing.

3. [+242, -56] I'm going to hate on both. Both need to get what they deserve.

4. [+27, -1] This is what I call ar eal article and a real journalist. Too many are scared over the power of big agencies and only write positive articles about them but scandals like this need to be brought forward so they reflect.

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Article: 'SMTM4' Producers, "Regarding the lyrics controversy, it is definitely the fault of the producers.. we will be more thorough with our editing"

Source: Sports Donga via Naver

1. [+3,945, -241] It's more Song Minho's fault than the producer's

2. [+3,268, -191] And Song Minho is not at fault...?

3. [+3,099, -105] How is that a mistake? You had to have heard it dozens of times while editing the clip. You obviously sent it out on broadcast thinking it was fine.

4. [+2,096, -115] ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Seriously just apologize

5. [+875, -42] Song Minho needs to apologize, not the producers. He basically put down all the women of the world and he thinks he can get away with it? Apologize immediately

6. [+701, -39] It's because he's under YG that the producers are calling it a mistake ㅋㅋㅋ Song Minho needs to apologize too ㅋㅋ

7. [+693, -60] It's not a mistake of editing, it's the fact that he wrote those lyrics and spit them out that's problematic. Take him off the show and make him apologize and reflect. YG never apologizes and takes the public for fools... Girl's Day apologized right away with their small mistake.

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596 comments:

  1. Let the witch hunt begin. 😈😈

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  2. Well they didn't waste the perfect oppurtunity to drag YG as a whole.

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  3. I hope they won't end up banning SMTM4 because I love all the memes coming out of it

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  4. So over that one lyrics now he is a criminal I mean I am not defending him but isn't this a little bit too much

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  5. -> biased netizen <-July 12, 2015 at 11:07 PM

    lol.

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  6. RME at this witch hunting

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  7. The lyrics were meant to be a metaphor for 'sex'. I do think people are making an unecessarily big deal out of it. At the same time, I personally didn't feel comfortable hearing that. There's no need to witch hunt Mino though.

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  8. Shawol the dinosaurJuly 12, 2015 at 11:08 PM

    Yes there have been a few scandals in YG, so let's generalize and say they're all criminals smh.

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  9. Pann: YG is the trashiest company and I don't understand their fans



    pfft.

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  10. Why didn't Mnet's team just edit it? What's the point of having editors if they can't do their job?

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  11. 1. [+213, -21] Whenever idols from smaller agencies like Block B or Girl's Day get into a scandal, they apologize as a group but YG doesn't care ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Yang CEO doesn't pick trainees off of character but star potential and talent ㅋㅋㅋ



    But Star Potential and Talent are what makes you a celebrity and differentiates you from a sea of other idols. YG should have better taken care of his idols but he's just ignoring outright.

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  12. it is pann nothing new

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  13. Overreaction to some next level.

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  14. "Song Minho told you to spread your legs and you still want to fangirl him?"

    That's what fangulls dreams are made of

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  15. Especially Soo Hyun and Chanhyuk

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  16. jealous minds as always

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  17. Because it's a matter of pushing boundaries, most of these company's and TV stations don't take action on something unless the public is out raged. They all try to see how far they can go

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  18. lol, of those lyrics really??

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  19. I'm more of a fan that goes on behind the scenes with YG, but I just realized that YG idols never apologize or bow their heads for anything? SM, and JYP idols do so it's not because they're a bigger agency. The only time YG apologizes is when they need to media play or YG himself apologizes instead of the idol.

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  20. Get over it thats how things work in korea

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  21. All my faves getting dragged this month I can't. I wish they had censored Taehyun's bad acting and Mino's OB/GYN part

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  22. I didn't like the lyrics and I think should apologize, but this is the only time ever Minho has ever screwed up. This one thing, and now it's like the entire world hates him.

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  23. but mnet can bleep out a rapper saying the n word, but not this offensive thing? and there are much worse lyrics than his that has been bleep out, but mnet is bullshit. not saying that mino isnt wrong, but im sick of mnet

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  24. As a feminist, I am offended at the comments calling what Minho said misogynistic. These people should concentrate on the REAL issues that Korean women face.

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  25. Messy. Honestly I don't know why I was expecting them to their job, when they edit their shows to favour some and make others look bad.

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  26. Maybe I didn't really get what he was trying to say but I don't feel offended at all. He tried to say that girls want to sleep with him and he used the gynecologist's as an example. What's so bad about this?

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  27. They are always too much if its about YG

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  28. so ok! i was one of these people who blamed him and criticized so hard but he didn't appologize and obviously he won't so move on ! dragging the same topic again and again is boring and waisting time... NEXT!

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  29. Hahahahah I am fans of criminal then..

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  30. This is...going a little too far. He's still learning and hopefully will have better lyrics

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  31. Ok then now I know on more thing to add to my list of Korea

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  32. Searching For FreedomJuly 12, 2015 at 11:11 PM

    Sorry but song minho does not live in america... LOL. I believe one day he will regret making this kind of rap (when he had a daughter lol)

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  33. That's not true. Taehyun made an apology when he was accused of yelling at his fans during a public concert before.

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  34. T.R.A.S.H is trash ,the shitty face already shows what trash he is

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  35. Yeah, go right on and jump on the hate bandwagon. Not even sure whether these people even practice what they preach in real life.

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  36. In other news, hip hop and rap on the American side is slowly becoming more appreciative of women? Specifically singling out the woman each artist loves or wants to get with. . .. The music is getting better bit by bit :)

    Not everyone, but yeah ~

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  37. Phew Mino from being everyone's favorite to being one of the most hated idols....

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  38. I like Song Mino and he doesn't seem like a bad guy, just a guy who's messed up. Ironically he's one of the only people in YG i like. Sad to see him get hate. Winner are my favourite boy group...

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  39. Taehyun and Mino did

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  40. Not really, Mino apologized for the gayo daejun thing and Taehyun apologized for speaking banmal.

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  41. So because of that you are ok of him called a criminal

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  42. Do they ever?
    "so-so member does something scandalous"
    "HIS THIRD COUSIN'S TWICE REMOVED NIECE'S DOG WALKER IS A JANITOR AT YG! THEYRE ALL TRASH!"

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  43. Just hoping that Hanbin would never have this kind of scandal ㅠㅠ

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  44. Exactly. You shouldn't expect too much from them and that thought in itself is just sad

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  45. I'm not sure what to make of this, but I'm lightly cackling deep inside for some reason. Idky.

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  46. Yall for real right now? Not shielding his lyrics cause they were kind of....like...he said them to sound super hard and stuff but come on with the witch hunt. To their credit they did wait a LONG time to start drgging him this hard so I guess we just gotta let them sit back and let them have their time.

    Tbh I think they just making a bigger deal out of this than it needs to be just so he will resign from the show. He is too much of a huge competitor and everyone banking on him being top two or winning. Was getting too much praise as well. This way they can make it look like a non YG bias show.

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  47. Searching For FreedomJuly 12, 2015 at 11:13 PM

    It's not a good lyrics but i hope he learns from this mistake, this scandal will follow him forever. K-netz arent really forgiving.

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  48. editors just edit what they want to edit and when they shouldn't edit but when they have to edit they don't

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  49. He's in YG and everyone in YG is a criminal. So that's why he has the word "criminal" stamped under his name now.

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  50. Shawol the dinosaurJuly 12, 2015 at 11:13 PM

    Lol who doesn't like a bad boy every now and then?

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  51. Okay thanks for this, Winner and Inner Circles are the only fandom i can stand in YG

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  52. This is getting heated.

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  53. Uh I understand Korea is different, but that's a dumb excuse. So is change not allowed? Is a country suppose to stay close minded forever? They literally go on witch hunts every other day.

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  54. Most of them don't even criticize him, they are just hating lol

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  55. these people have never listened to rap

    let them continue listening to lyrics like "oppa you make my heart dugun dugun!!"

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  56. ..................

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  57. "1. [+382, -37] The program's just hopeless.. Korea's hip hop losers are hopeless... none of them have talent and they're all just military evading druggies."


    I can't bring to words how much this comment is pissing me.

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  58. Searching For FreedomJuly 12, 2015 at 11:14 PM

    HELLO MRS DRAMATIC. When did I say he's a criminal? What the heck is wrong with you, I'm just saying he is living in Korea and not america so of course this kind of lyrics is not allowed,.. and yes of course i can understand why korean netz overreact.

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  59. You get tiara being criminal over rice cakes and sojin being criminal over dumpling... you should've expected this..

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  60. So over that two lines of lyrics make him a criminal huh? They even dragged the whole YG company. Lol that's kind of funny tho. Personally I found that Mino's lyrics is a lil bit uncomfortable but to be dragged this bad? Omg this is like a whole new level for me hahaha they better take a look too at the other kpop/hiphop lyrics that contains sexual lyrics tho. + wtf did mnet aired his lyrics when they know it contains things that are not suitable to be broadcasted and can just beep those lines. Haha damn this is getting too far and should I say hilarious? Huh

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  61. I can understand when they refer the meaning of his lyrics are bad. But called him criminal??
    really... just don't watch the show

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  62. yeah, sexual objectification is totally not a real issue, lol.

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  63. It's rather sad how true this is this

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  64. Don't you know? Soohyun and Chanhyuk are notorious iljins. I heard soohyun drinks and smokes during practice and has 5 boyfriends. And chanhyuk, he didn't write any of his songs!! He bullies a kid that he knows to make them. Don't be fooled by their innocent looks... they once made Tablo cry.

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  65. I'm sorry, I laughed. The accuracy burns cuz I can see them raging over that

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  66. I laughed out loud

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  67. they never called t-ara and girls day criminals as far as i remember lol

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  68. 1. [+2,296, -149] To all of you shielding this saying hip hop is always like this and that it's worse in America... you realize that even Snoop Dogg said that he regrets writing misogynistic lyrics after having his own daughter and that he reflected? Even Eminem said he's embarrassed of his older lyrics... Why would you ever fangirl over someone who writes lyrics like this?

    You wouldn't know till you have daughter

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  69. TheMerryGoRoundOfLifeJuly 12, 2015 at 11:16 PM

    His lyrics were trash.

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  70. Bad boys ain't no good, good boys ain't no fun. Hehe

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  71. Remember about Blacknut's lyrics.
    And still feel annoyed. Like eugh!

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  72. This is getting dragged to the heavens 😪 I don't agree w/ the lyrics but this really is s bit of an overreaction. Mixed in with the fact that this isn't just any "nugu" idol and the company, people feel the need to jump on the bandwagon even more.

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  73. They are completely useless. Last season a rapper said nigga twice and they didn't bleep it out, they also replayed the scene.

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  74. /whispers/ Mnet evil editing

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  75. Lol Blacknut gets away with it but not Mino k. Anyway you don't have to be a misogynist to be a rapper

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  76. me too cannot stand the curse in rap lyrics... like they're vocab-less for other words to write but curses

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  77. WHAT? wow I had no idea that happened. That's ridiculous.

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  78. Searching For FreedomJuly 12, 2015 at 11:18 PM

    You can really change over 50 million people easily, even they want to change it will take them decades to change. While they are changing, scandals, critiques and issues like this will happen. A change will not happen OVERNIGHT. Just like how you go into a diet, you wont be skinny right the next day. Of course you will go through pain of exercising and diet. LOL.

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  79. But he did have other kinds of scandals, didnt he?

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  80. His lyric is disgusting

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  81. I think everyone is afraid nof Blacknut. After reading his lyrics I would be too.

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  82. Of course you do this kind of lyrics is not allowed but this is not the first time this kind of lyrics have been written before and much worse in Korean rap I mean this time seems like an overeaction but then again I remember he is from yg so of course the hate band wagon is on non carry on

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  83. Yeah lol not defending him but why doesn't anyone care about the other rappers? Their lyrics are just as bad if not worse (Blacknut)

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  84. the one sentence was unneeded and distasteful but is all of this necessary oh my god

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  85. Apparently it was not only Mino's part, but also Lee Hyunjun and Black Nut's https://twitter.com/chrissy96_/status/620430518538997764/photo/1

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  86. I know change is not suppose to happen overnight, but the OP was saying "get over it" and how is that going to solve anything?

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  87. Especially with "none of them have talent" like someone who post that comment have it

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  88. that shade of hate.. they need some chill pills..

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  89. You know how it is. He was getting way too much praise recently. They were just sitting on the edge of their seats waiting for a reason to go after him. Even after he apologizes they still wont let him off. Unfortunately he seems like a sweet guy who takes himself, his fans and maybe what people think of him seriously. If he stays on the show....i feel like this is a ploy to force him off....but if he stays I hope this doesnt effect his rapping. Hes gonna now start being way too conscious and worried about what he says and does and its gonna show in delivery. He should be conscious, yes, so that he doesnt say stuff like that again but I see so many rappers tht just overthink it and stuff to the point to where they fall flat.

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  90. Yeah, they need to take a look at all the other more problematic shitty lyrics on that show. Mino is the least of their worries.

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  91. I thought mino's lyrics were tasteless and disgusting but I don't understand why he's being singled out like this when there's been way worse.

    I feel like people were just waiting for a reason to hate (and bandwagon hate) and that's why I didn't him on this stupid show in the first place. It was too risky.

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  92. 1. [+2,296, -149] To all of you shielding this saying hip hop is always like this and that it's worse in America... you realize that even Snoop Dogg said that he regrets writing misogynistic lyrics after having his own daughter and that he reflected? Even Eminem said he's embarrassed of his older lyrics... Why would you ever fangirl over someone who writes lyrics like this?
    I agree

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  93. He's the most of their worries. Idol and from YG? Top of the hit list, wonder how many were waiting with baited breath for him to screw up

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  94. So are we really gonna go ape shit over this and forget about #HelpLeeJungHee or forget other super misogynist things being said and done? I think this is honestly just one (stupid and wrong) mistake on Mino's part that's brought on a huge witch hunt.

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  95. It's only really a big deal because Mino is an idol, and the fans of groups that rival Winner are threatened by him, so they attack him through Pann and other forums.


    I kept hearing on Twitter that SHINee fans were the main culprits. They wanted to take the attention away from that Jonghyun dude or whatever his name was.

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  96. Of course he already does...Look at the backlash he's receiving.

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  97. I didn't like Mino's lyrics either but I'm pretty surprised that it's more controversial than Blacknut's trashy lyrics about murder and rape?

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  98. And in the end, they till doing witch hunt about taehyun banmal even after he apologies. I feel bad for taehyun

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  99. probably because he's not popular in public, he don't get exposure. But knetz didn't give him slack either, if you read pannchoa translation-- they're horrified

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  100. True. He's an all too easy target. The ideal one.

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  101. Because Mino is an idol. There's always this unrealistic expectation that idols have to be perfect. Plus he's from a big company so it'll spread faster then some underground rapper that a lot of people (intl fans) just learned about. Situation is unfortunate for both sides.

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  102. It's a YG artist even if they Fart

    [+1,0024, -01] you Fucking Druggie Dirty Bitch Criminals I Want you ALL Locked UP!

    [+2,900, -100] who allowed you to fart?.

    YG statement My artist is sincerely sorry for farting.

    [+10,300, -00] YG and his media play

    [+2,000, -10] apology NOT ACCEPTED

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  103. Did anyone else on the show have lyrics that were equally as bad? Doesn't seem fair to investigate him when I'm sure other rappers produced equally misogynistic lyrics?

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  104. When they debut net will drag him coz his dad scandal. Now I can understand why YG like to send their artist to japan.

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  105. i think they also still have grudge over that dibidibis mino rapping the other day,lol

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  106. Chill people. I'm sure all of this shit exist just to cover Lee Junghee's cases

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  107. Blacknut is the worst tbh he's rapping about rape and murder but most of knetizens only hate Mino because he's an idol from YG

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  108. Me too :( winner is my second favorite boy group, I feel so bad for him. He only meant it as a sexual reference (albiet, not a good one) and now he's being called a criminal, WTF.

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  109. Ah btw I think it's Seo Yuri not Sayuri^^

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  110. change towards the worse ? towards accepting those kind of lyrics and thinking its okay?

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  111. they still hate on him to this level for other reasons.

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  112. Can someone explain to me how his lyrics were misogynistic? Based on that one line I don't feel like he hates woman, it's just kinda nasty since there's nothing sexy about getting a vaginal exam by a gynecologist lol. Are the netizens just reaching or can it be implied? Everything seems blown out of proportion nowadays...

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  113. One thing I noticed with Ifans especially, is that whenever an article about Minho came out with people praising him, ALL of the top comments never mentioned him and were trying to deflect from his praise. With some even trying to mock him a bit? I could definitely feel the passiveness in the comment section then, and I can can feel the aggressiveness now.

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  114. Searching For FreedomJuly 12, 2015 at 11:25 PM

    Of course because there are prices you have to pay when you are famous. The higher the tree the windier it gets. If they cant handle this then just go down with the critics. They get more critics is the proves of their popularity, it's better than get ignored. Underground hip hop dont get much hate because they keep themselves in the dark. This is the problem if celebrities want to promote hip hop and make it appeal to general public, they cant use this kind of lyrics. SMTM is watched by general public that I believe most of them are not familiar with the real hip hop.. shoving misogynistic lyrics and vulgars about rape, etc. just a turn off for people who were interested about hip hop. Dude, they're doing it wrong.



    Mino deserves to be criticized because he doesnt know how to draw a line and it's kinda disappointing knowing that kind of lyrics produced by his brain lol.

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  115. It wasnt even taking the attention off -- try wanting to take advantage of Mino's bad luck and use it to make one of their members look better. They've admitted to organizing a Twitter event that highlighted Mino being "bad" and how Jonghyun appreciated women. It trended HUGE and brought a lot of Korean attention to it. Unfortunately for them it backfired because people had a problem with the Jonghyun quote as well. And that's the only reason we found out about it -- because they had to come clean to salvage the mess.

    Super disappointed with the Korean shawols who did this. It just shows -- even the nicest fandoms will turn around and use anything to make their faves look better :(

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  116. Just wait y'all, next week after ep. 4 airs they'll hop back on the Mino train. Or bring it up when he's in the finals, or bring it up during Winner's comeback.

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  117. he could have just apologized over it but yg is letting it drag for too long

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  118. Cz Mino's an idol. People always nitpicking on idols rather than other people who probably do something worst than the said idol.

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  119. Sarcasm at it's best.

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  120. If YG artist did anything that warned them being arrested they would be in jail. Seriously the "drug addicts, murderer, and criminal" name calling isn't necessary.

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  121. I like how NB conveniently left this out...

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  122. No... change to not being so sensitive about every issue and going on witch hunts to end careers. I'm not saying what Mino did was right, but reading these comments they're definitely an overreaction. They're even dragging all of Winner into this and YG artist and they haven't done anything.

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  123. LOL. You can be a writer

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  124. There are. I saw a post in pannchoa before. But these article just an excuse to hate. Because mino is the favor, he is smtm4 bait. Now with 1 lyrics they called him criminal

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  125. It's literally just a terrible word play that everyone took wayyyyy out of context. Mino should mostly be embarrassed for writing such a lazy rhyme that wasn't even clever. That's the only reason I'm mad at him. Cause he's way better than that.

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  126. "Why would you ever fangirl over someone who writes lyrics like this?"
    This.. I will not ever shielding something like this talented or not so brainless

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  127. An update on Help Lee Jung Hee Facebook page states that one director has contacted Lee Jung Hee and they're going to film a document about her life or something. I hope the truth can be revealed asap.
    #HelpLeeJungHee

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  128. I meant criticized yes but this is not even criticism that is plain hating there is nothing about those comments you can called criticism it is just main hating I mean when you criticizero someone you tell them what they did wrong and tell them to learn from it an d move on you don't just start calling them names and such I mean...

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  129. Wtf! I haven't watched the 3rd ep, but did he REALLY say that nasty rap on broadcast??

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  130. Do you think they include akmu when they sqy yg?

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  131. Shawol the dinosaurJuly 12, 2015 at 11:29 PM

    He didn't say it on broadcast, it's one of his old raps.

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  132. Can someone explain how it's controversial? I actually never understand and I'm really ignorant with issues like that so can someone explain?

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  133. Is this the article where Black Nut says he rapes a woman and then mentions something about a corpse? I think I saw it too then. Didn't know it was to do with SMTM4.

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  134. TheMerryGoRoundOfLifeJuly 12, 2015 at 11:29 PM

    Blacknut's lyrics were trash too. Anyway, if blacknut were an idol or from the top 3 or a well known agency he would be getting as much backlash as mino. Also many k netizens are aware of blacknuts lyrics. I think his lyrics were discussed on pann choa and ppl were horrified.

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  135. Istg NB is a Topp Dogg fan or something lmfao...She must be loving this though, these Mino articles have average 700+ comments. You do you, NB!!

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  136. TheMerryGoRoundOfLifeJuly 12, 2015 at 11:30 PM

    6. [+1,358, -94] People keep saying "this is hip hop" and "there are worse lyrics out there" but this touches a sensitive issue of women's rights. How dare he talk lowly of a woman's body who is getting checked at a gynecologist's and treating her like a prostitute? I honestly don't know why he's being shielded

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  137. they're dragging the whole YG cause they can't bring them down.

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  138. Review the show because of Minho?! Because of Minho ONLY?! ridic...

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  139. I watched without sub and I think Black Nut did say a bit from his old rap track, not the whole lyrics (as translated above)

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  140. well i don't like mino lyrics too.. it's dissapointed and embarassing. but why KCSC didn't try to review Blacknuts lyrics too?

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  141. Okay I hate his lyrics and I think they're so brainless, not to mention violent and offensive...but don't exaggerate. That's something for Mino himself to deal with, not this crap committee that has been targetting this show for the longest time. Mino just gave them something to go after, but this isn't the way.

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  142. Searching For FreedomJuly 12, 2015 at 11:31 PM

    When people cant handle criticism, they will call it hate. People are used to be feed with sugar-coated words. People also need to learn that not all people are good with words and make poetry criticism. Critics from many people come in many forms, that just depends on how you want to see and just want to select which critics you like the best. LOL. Damn sometimes I'm glad I was grow up always being taught not always see criticism as hate..

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  143. mino apologized even if it wasn't his fault.

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  144. Lol koreans need to know what is the real hip hop.. its always about the money girls and drugs. All the hardcore stuff so stop expecting them to go rapping about softcore stuff

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  145. ofc, it's YG. i wudnt be surprised if every air they breath or everytime they fart, it gets attention & become a scandal. LOL.

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  146. I can see it now! WINNER's teaser drops "OMG why have they not disband yet" "YG artist are trash" "Hul YG master of media play" "Criminals"


    Video and Album Drops: "This song is Daebak!" "YG truly Daebak!" "Mino Oppa I forgive you" "This company may be filled with criminals but their music is surely DAEBAK no one can top YG" "True Artist"

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  147. I noticed this too. They were honestly just looking for a reason to hate on the guy. If it wasn't this, they would've found something else.

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  148. Yeah they hated him because of that

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  149. mino is getting popular day by day. mino fighting! winner fighting

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  150. Well the rule of thumb for dragging is that you ignore all the positives and focus on the negatives even if they are fabricated...so with that in mind all the golden eggs cease to exist and only the rotten ones (snorts) are used as representations.

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  151. SMTM is a messy show


    It's hard to believe tvN and MNet under the same company, while tvN more often than not delivering feel good show, MNet strive for drama to gain rating.
    It's no wonder tvN variety/reality show is more interesting

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  152. Wow! NBuzz not even trying to hide her hate on YG anymore. And don't give me that "only negative comment choosen" bullshit coz I see you post only positive comments of your choosen idols. And by the way, why don't you hypocrites compare minos lyrics with that sixth-man-contender's statements you so adore. If YG is trash then thank you for that trash you give YG! At least youre not sh!t.

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  153. no he didn't but the rap is still disturbing, also that rap about Beenzino lol this dude is a freaking psycho

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  154. TheMerryGoRoundOfLifeJuly 12, 2015 at 11:35 PM

    What proof do you have that nb is a topp dogg fan?

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  155. Can't knock a girls hustle though haha

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  156. Searching For FreedomJuly 12, 2015 at 11:35 PM

    K-netz join the bandwagon of hating YG.


    I-Netz join the bandwagon of defending YG.


    It's all bandwagon.

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  157. The koreans are actually right on this though, you're the one with the crap perception of Hiphop.

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  158. are you serious right now?

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  159. Ok I'll watch it and see thanks!

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  160. Oh okay I almost died. I read that mess a few days ago and I was worried he somehow resurrected it for the show.

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  161. On the bright side thanks to Mino for getting GsD out of the spotlight lol.

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  162. Karma dude karma

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  163. It's not that bad. Mino was probably clueless when he wrote the rap. I agree it was tasteless but for him to be witch hunted like this is awful.

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  164. YG said they're not getting involved with his SMTM4 stuff though. He wanted to let go of YG and this is what it brought him. Why should they get involved?

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  165. Shawol tenias que ser

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  166. I don't think think they were main culprits, honestly. But rather, people/knetz were just waiting for a reason to hate on him.

    However, it was rather untactful to try to use Mino's controversy as a way to make Jonghyun look good. Just, WTF. I'm disappointed, as both a shawol and a winner fan.

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  167. LJH's case is moving forward though

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  168. actually NB used to be a huge BBC and she likes Mino (during WIN, she tagged one of the posts like "you go hugeboy <3" or something like that) idk about anymore, but im sure she still likes them. it just would be biased of her to NOT translate these articles since theyre in the rankings and stuff

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  169. I don't think he's getting off scot-free but Blacknut isn't an idol or a YG artist, so people don't care. It's actually a good thing for Blacknut tbh

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  170. What the heck?? Chill perhaps. NB translate topics that are trending and topics that us Users can debate on. If you don't like it there's an X button you can click.

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  171. Don't forget that Blacknut didn't rap this on TV.

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  172. Searching For FreedomJuly 12, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    You do know that theyre definitely not the same netizens right?

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  173. Omigosh now be is a druggie, military evading and criminal. Are they serious? Over a single line in his rap? Seriously, they are nuts!!!

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  174. Snoop dog and eminem still have misogynistic lyrics even after they've had daughters though....? Weird to compare them to mino anyways since he hasn't had a daughter yet lol
    it's stupid that some men have to have a daughter first to be able to respect women though. Do they not have mothers and sisters? Or even female friends?

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  175. It was just one line though :/ Are we really going to start a witch-hunt over one line?

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  176. TheMerryGoRoundOfLifeJuly 12, 2015 at 11:41 PM

    Perhaps you should take your ass to ygpress, where it's all rainbows and sunshine. Nb seems to be causing you a lot of distress.

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  177. Yeah like objectification and sexual violence. Gtfo.

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  178. Mnet just loves to create drama and have shitty editing. Even Loco tweeted about it.

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  179. jungkookiesnkremeJuly 12, 2015 at 11:43 PM

    why aren't they talking about Blacknut as well...??? his old song gave me goosebumps :(
    https://lyricalmovement.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/black-nut-mc%EA%B8%B0%ED%98%95%EC%95%84-%EC%A1%B8%EC%97%85%EC%95%A8%EB%B2%94-graduation-album/#more-636

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  180. If you make assumptions like you just did about any artist under YG your sure to get dragged. The last thing you should do is make a comment without having the correct receipts! Think before you post!

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  181. Mino's lame ass!!😂

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  182. Um mm are you ok? Like really I have not said anything about NB literally just read my comment again slowly this time and understand it like really take a deep breath and read it again

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  183. idc, misogyny is being called out and there are going to be actual consequences for it. good riddance. it's a start.

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  184. To all those that were saying "oh it's no big deal it happens all the time in rap" or "that's just the way rap is": take my middle f*cking finger.


    Like I've been saying before, unless you all have lived in South Korea and know what's it's ACTUALLY like here then just shut up. It will do you some good. Even I as a gyokpo know the very strict protocols of Korean broadcasting.

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  185. This is why I'm not that favorable of Mino joining SMTM4. His joining will either make or break his career. /sigh/ Now, knetz will have something bad to bring up whenever there are articles/issues about Mino.

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  186. Just for that mistake, people will now call you criminal??? *sigh* the reason why I don't want him to join this show is because of this! People will start swearing at you, call you names & such for that mistake! I know mino did something wrong, but this is too much!!!

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  187. LOL , I think i found a Knet here !!!

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  188. yep thats true, haru once put out a diss track for them, its called, the stinky fish

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  189. Because the people targeting Mino are SHINee fans, and the very little fans of Top Dogg, EvoL, etc. Basically anyone that sees Winner as a threat to their faves.


    Plus, Black Nut didn't say any of that on air, so they don't care as much.

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  190. I was joking lol but I wouldn't be surprised if she was.

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  191. TheMerryGoRoundOfLifeJuly 12, 2015 at 11:46 PM

    Yeah I'm fine. Perhaps you should read carefully again. I was replying to 'onlineidentity'.

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