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Monday, June 3, 2013

List of dramas with unpaid staff continues to grow


Article: Don't even get paid, get ripped off, receive the script the day of filming... the 'triple stress' of actors

Source: Hankyeore via Naver

Dramas with unpaid staff:

Faith: $604,000 USD
The Musical: $208,000 USD
I Love You: $209,000 USD
The Princess Has Returned: $209,000 USD
Fugitive: Plan B: $450,000 USD
President: $550,000 USD
Jungle Fish 2: $34,000 USD
Rascal Sons: $680,000 USD

1. [+145, -5] Staff barely get paid $1,000 a month for their work. How can you think of ripping them off? What are they supposed to live off of? And fu*king drama production companies should not be creating dramas if they don't have the money for it.

2. [+151, -13] Suddenly reminds me of the Suzy fans who were going around bragging about how Suzy makes $10,000 USD per episode ㅋ Does it make you proud that she receives that much for her crappy acting?

3. [+130, -1] I think lead roles get paid way too much... They're basically sucking the money out of the supporting roles and the staff. Cut down their costs and stop giving lead roles to people who don't deserve it.

4. [+102, -3] Both the production companies and the leading roles are the problem. Yeah, they're the star of the show but how can you be paid several thousands an episode? Cut the pie for everyone.

5. [+95, -2] Korea needs to start doing seasons as well. One episode a week that's way too long... 40~50 minutes is about right. Focus on the quality and diversity of content, not the same rich families committing affairs. I'm so tired of reading subtitles for American and Japanese dramas.

6. [+86, -2] Well obviously the staff aren't getting paid because the leading roles are sitting on tens of thousands of dollars

7. [+67, -2] Air less dramas at a time then...

8. [+61, -1] Cut down the cost of the 'CF actors' who can't act for sh*t. Why do they get paid the most when they can't even act?

9. [+46, -0] No matter where you go, it's only the poor that get poorer.

10. [+43, -0] We need to turn it into a law that all dramas must be produced prior to airing. It's ridiculous to me that casts are given their scripts the day of filming. How can you expect any sort of quality when people are working under such tight conditions like that? Having a fully produced drama will raise the stakes for investors and promote competition since they know what they'll be getting into if the quality's good.

11. [+45, -4] Ridiculous to me how our country's actors expect Hollywood treatment when they only perform makjang roles in makjang dramas every single day.

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178 comments:

  1. #5 wtf Korean dramas are away better than japanese

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  2. stop the trolling.

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  3. I agree. They give "CF Actors" or Idols all the lead roles and nearly all of them cant even act for shit.

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  4. 9. [+46, -0] No matter where you go, it's only the poor that get poorer.

    basically

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  5. Unsuccessful drama with big lead actors = fail. Disclaimer: Not applicable to all drama on the list

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  6. [+95, -2] Korea needs to start doing seasons as well. One episode a week that's way too long... 40~50 minutes is about right. Focus on the quality and diversity of content, not the same rich families committing affairs. I'm so tired of reading subtitles for American and Japanese dramas.



    Noooooo I like how K drama have an ending.....

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  7. Korea's entertanment industry is nothing to compared to Hollywood, so obviously Korean actors get lower salaries.


    Korean celebs make more money off of CFs anyway. Won Bin alone can live off of his CFs and never have to do another movie ever again if he wanted to. Same for Han Gain, Kim Taehee, Lee Seunggi, etc.

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  8. Obviously you haven't watched jdramas, not only that their plots are varied but they have great actors as well (plus it's only 9-11 episodes)

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  9. I actually like watching Geordie Shore more than I'd care to admit. It's trashy, but funny and at the end of the day thats all just entertainment.

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  10. kTH is in JOJ. And she 's doing a great job. Definitely better than HGI

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  11. 6 & 11 are fucking spot on.


    If ever there were a reason to stop putting shitty actors in lead roles, this would be it.


    There aren't any shows in Korea with longevity. At all. Nothing like Friends or CSI or even fucking Hannah Montana. Every drama is the same.


    About 4~5 years ago, K-dramas were actually really good. That's what jumpstarted the Hallyu movement to begin with, because other countries wanted to buy the rights to air it on their own channels.


    But idol companies and producers saw this as a way to kill two birds with one stone: export K-dramas and promote Korean idols to expand their audience.


    And the result of that is horse shit like fuckin' Dream High. I can't stand it anymore.


    And now we find out that the staff aren't even getting paid? I'm pretty sure that there are more dramas out there where the staff get ripped off by getting really tiny pay checks. Which is a shame because they're responsible for everything that goes on while crappy actors just stand in front of a camera parroting their lines with zero emotion.


    Fucking pissed right now.

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  12. couldnt agree more. plus most of japanese actors are great in acting. based on most dramas that i've seen

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  13. Dream High was actually pretty good. Dream High 2, on the other hand, was the real shitfest.

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  14. Even the idols who act are pretty good. Like Nino from Arashi? Beautiful acting. :3

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  15. season 1 of jersey shore is my guilty pleasure.

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  16. i feel sorry for the staffs ~ some actors suck but paid big amount of money ~ i mean wtf ~ atleast they will hire some decent actors with decent acting skills~

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  17. No. But maybe if you line it up next to Big or Love Rain it might seem good. /shrug/


    The only nice thing about Dream High was the soundtrack. Everything else... the cast, the plot... horrible. And DH2 was just worse. Unwatchable.

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  18. Are you fucking kidding me.

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  19. dream high was terrible lmao i don't even know how it landed a sequel

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  20. Maybe bcoz different taste. No big deal. Calm down..

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  21. "Big" is the biggest tragedy of all, considering the scriptwriters and having freaking Gong Yoo as the lead actor. Sigh...

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  22. Without the staff on set, what exactly can be accomplished?


    That's right, NOTHING.


    PAY YOUR STAFF.

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  23. It's like a double edged sword. Some shows just Korea alone cannot support the cost. Good shows with good actors but no export market. Also, 8 out of how many dramas over the last few years. Its not a good sign, but i dont think its crisis yet. k-netizens thinking 10K is too much ?

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  24. Different taste...


    So you like crappy dramas as long as people you like are the lead roles? Yeah. I guess we do have different tastes after all. <__<

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  25. Yup. They're good. What do you think about Matsumoto Jun? :D I think he's acting is kinda ok.

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  26. $10k is a lot compared to the zilch the staff members of those shows listed above are getting.

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  27. JYPNATIONCITIZENJune 3, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    agree!!! 10,000$ is why to small for a lead role not to metion GFB is a big production..i remember reading yoon eun hye recieve 40,000$ per episode..

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  28. Oh I know. I just find it sad that some people get paid outrageous amounts to make a fool of themselves on national television. No wonder so many people look down on the latest generation of youths; they're exposed to so much trash in every media outlet.

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  29. waiting4indiansummerJune 3, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    3. [+130, -1] I think lead roles get paid way too much... They're basically sucking the money out of the supporting roles and the staff. Cut down their costs and stop giving lead roles to people who don't deserve it.

    something sounds wrong n just bitter/biased abt that statement. so, you're complaining about supporting roles n staffs not getting money.... then you complained about giving lead roles to ppl who don't deserve....uhm, so it's okay for lead roles to be the only ones paid as long as their acting deserve it....while the staffs n supporting roles still don't get paid? get ur priorities right. Everyone who worked deserved to be paid for their work. that's it.

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  30. [+86, -2] Well obviously the staff aren't getting paid because the leading roles are sitting on tens of thousands of dollars



    can't disagree with this

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  31. If I were the staff of these dramas I would consider striking.

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  32. Agree, There are many american dramas that I just can't continue to watch it because it's too long, and become ridiculous in it's way. I like the emptiness feeling, after an ending of a good drama, book, etc. Like Reply 1998, how great was it? It was ended beautifully. I think it's hard to continue the story (which is why, when they make the sequel, they create different story, so far Reply 1994). Or Harry Potter series. When JK Rowling stated, they she's just gonna make seven books of HP, I thought she should reconsider, but then, the 7th book out, and it's the best way to end the series.

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  33. plot is great, portay difficulties and problem solving for achieving your dreams but has terrible casts for leads

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  34. ugh. production stuff does most of the shit all the time and they're not getting paid? seems like they need to have a lesson on production budgeting all over again. wtf seriously. i can imagine those staffs going without sleep filming the whole episode and yet they're not getting paid? this just isn't right

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  35. 5. [+95, -2] Korea needs to start doing seasons as well. One episode a
    week that's way too long... 40~50 minutes is about right. Focus on the
    quality and diversity of content, not the same rich families committing
    affairs. I'm so tired of reading subtitles for American and Japanese
    dramas.



    American dramas >>>>> Japanese dramas>>>>>>>>>>>>>> korean dramas

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  36. Poor the staffs, no wonder dramas these days keep losing their quality. With such a poor & torturous working conditions plus no paying? They should make a huge boycott! And to hell with all the poor acting idols/ actors, they don't deserve high pay at all.

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  37. If that's terrible why people watching it why the rating so high?

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  38. [+95, -2] Korea needs to start doing seasons as well. One episode a week that's way too long... 40~50 minutes is about right. Focus on the quality and diversity of content, not the same rich families committing affairs. I'm so tired of reading subtitles for American and Japanese dramas.

    Whenever someone says American Dramas, I immediately think of Passions, Days of our lives, etc.

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  39. I know the question isn't directed to me... But MatsuJun has improved over the years. Tremendous improvement. He did well in Smile, IMO. It's only when he's acting beside a really good actor that reveals what he lacks, for example Lucky 7 beside Eita, who's really really amazing.

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  40. I love MatsuJun but yes Eita was really great in Lucky 7, even if the main was MatsuJun I could not help but focus on Eita...

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  41. Lead roles? I dont even know their real name when I watch for first time (and didnt know they are idols in korea). I like DH because the story line and its musical.

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  42. compared to other overpayed stars, yes

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  43. Ugh, don't remind me of Big. Such a waste for Gong Yoo's talent. IDEK why he took the role after his brilliant performance in Silenced. I guess he wanted a job after his service but Big was AWFUL. Really awful.

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  44. hong sisters..what's wrong with them,,big was really.....weird

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  45. the first season of dream high wasn't that bad, the second one though...ugh

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  46. I guess this is why everyone and their mother in Korea wants to be a celebrity. If you ain't famous, no money for you.

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  47. that netizen's comment is exactly how my complain sounds like about my country's drama. dont let few korean dramas with unpaid staff like this makes us think all korean dramas have the same problem. there are also other good kdramas. every country's drama have their own style and flaws. i still enjoy watching kdrama~ and i agree with you maybe they should lessen the live-shooting drama system

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  48. I like the fact that they don't focus on romance the whole time... Kdramas tend to revolve on romance (as well as birth secrets and cancer related sickness) even though it's an action or a medical drama...

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  49. Nino is fantastic. Have you seen him Letters from Iwo Jima? I must have cried my eyeballs out.

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  50. I think you're confusing both. The plot on the first one was faaaaar from tragic. The second one was a total mess, not comparable to the freshness of the first one in any way or form

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  51. lol if Korean weekend dramas had plots like American soaps...at least it'd be more interesting, that's all I'll say about that.

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  52. It's okay. Thanks for the info :D

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  53. You can't compare hollywood's stars income to...practically anyone's stars

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  54. Carnation RebellionJune 3, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    this make me realise why Taiwan said Korean actors and actresses were cheap. average in China is 60-80k

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  55. American dramas also drag on. Especially if they're on network channels that have 22-24 eps each. The filler in the plots...I prefer cable dramas.



    And the Japanese always have 10-11 episodes max for most of their dramas (if not an NHK asadora or jidaigeki). Most use their plotlines wisely.

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  56. Ridiculous. I do think the quick turn around hurts more than it helps. it's too much pressure all around. Too much pressure on the directors and writers to change to fit public opinion and too much pressure on the staff and actor to deal with the changes.

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  57. the problem with kdramas is that they use movie material but in drama form. yes the rich jerk ordinary girl storyline with corny love quotes and crying scenes is something some1 can put up with for about 2 and a half hours, but for 16 episodes? they all start to drag by the 6th episode and i never finish them.

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  58. disqus_C58PLvrTXsJune 3, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Main reason they put idols in their drama is for overseas fan. That's where the moolah is for them.

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  59. i'm sorry but imo japanese dramas >>>>>>>>>>> american dramas >>> korean drama

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  60. I stopped watching Korean dramas.
    Not even "TWTWB".
    Plots are soooo repetitive, nothing creative nor interesting.
    Even those supposed "Eye candies" can't attract me enough to watch their dramas.
    But some K-movies produced recently are pretty good, especially "Miracle in Cell No 7".

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  61. The rating is not that high. The highest it achieved was 18%. It has lee seung gi. In case you haven't realized by now, everyone loves lee seung gi

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  62. So they're basically interns.....

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  63. Korea need to make good TV series such as Hannibal or The Mentalist

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  64. disqus_TLpZbEeurcJune 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    Lol wow you missed the point. you seem completely hell bent on making people believe that this such a 'fucking' terrible drama huh? Guess what it really wasn't that bad lol. Don't need to be so sarcastic and cynical to people who do like it. God forbid if someone has a different opinion to yours. Please.

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  65. disqus_TLpZbEeurcJune 3, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    And you wonder why dramas are below par these days?

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  66. the problem is not who is in the leading role, but the production that paid too much for whoever is in the leading role and the staff... and the stories are always the same, they should put a little more of the real world in the doramas, and not just that fantasy love stories...

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  67. strawberrysodapopJune 3, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Yeah season one was the best! Everyone was watching it.

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  68. OfficialKARALoverJune 3, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    Done updating ..
    hmhmh still someone here?.


    Wanted to say..
    I feel pity to all STAFF... i experience it that before during my college life as working student and it was painful for me,,,we worked hard for that event to gain nothing but sweat ....

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  69. Yeah, he is a really good actor in just about anything he portrays. Rumour was, eita was so good he was overshadowing Jun. so, JE "demanded" to have eita's character written out for the show. Just rumours, but one can't help think its true with the way eita just disappeared in the drama, only to come back at the end for like friggin 10seconds.

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  70. strawberrysodapopJune 3, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Not only jersey shore but othe ratchet shows like love and hip hop and the real housewives of atlanta

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  71. strawberrysodapopJune 3, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    One thing I can say korean dramas have great cinematography

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  72. strawberrysodapopJune 3, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    Lol. This is weird but I've seriously only watched 3 korean dramas. Dream high, autumn in my heart, and friends. I really can't stand them... I only watched them because of the cast. However I think ifans should watch more korean films. They are soo much better quality.

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  73. OfficialKARALoverJune 3, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    with GLOWING effects hehehe

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  74. poor them, they work their ass much more hard than the actor or actres and they haven't get paid

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  75. I really pity all the unpaid staffs.they worked hard yet get nothing.this maybe off topic but whenever i see VJs on RM running all the way while carrying camera with them makes me somehow heartache.

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  76. OfficialKARALoverJune 3, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Mother and Everyone LOVE him..I love him too..
    he's my IDOL

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  77. im sorry im not americans, can you tell me what's the difference between network and cable. im only wacthing internationally famous drama like HMYM,bigbang theory, dexter, castler, etc

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  78. It's high compare to the ratings of the dramas this days. LSG is the main reason people watch it of course, It's kang chi story. But you also need to give credit to the staff/pd/co-stars of the drama. And suzy is one of them.

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  79. umm i think it's big amount of money in most asia.

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  80. Korean drama are better than that. But it would be even better with Dara in it.

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  81. Korean actors > Chinese

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  82. I'm sorry but Korean dramas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> japanese drama >>> american dramas >>>>>>>>>>>>> [...] >>>>> chinese dramas

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  83. one example of a show going too long : how i met your mother.
    one example of a show going too short : Friends. or thats how i felt.

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  84. Hannibal! I just started watching it and DAMN it's good. :D

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  85. HIMYM, Big Bang Theory and Castle are on network channels like CBS and ABC (basically, the US equivalent of KBS, MBC, SBS in Korea otherwise known as free-to-air channels on TV). They are usually given 22-24 episode orders per season if they do well or 16 if they premiered in the middle of the television season.

    Dexter is on cable (Showtime) and cable dramas usually get a limited number of episodes per season (like 10-15, it depends on the popularity really) and they have more freedom in the content they can air.

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  86. This remind me with what my professor said, if 'human resources is the most precious asset in a company, not the stocks or exchange, but the human, without them the company won't working. Give the right for the employee, welfare, when they feel satisfied, they'll feel obligate to do the same for the company, they will work at their best when their right fulfill. And they will have nothing to complains'


    I guess this is can be use for this case, if the staff paid well, like the contract said, I guess they will work better in the future. Who knows when they should made film again, with the same home production... they will reject cause "I worked in there before, but I'm not paid well, I wont work for them again anymore''


    Right and obligation, both have advantage. Hope they unpaid check get pay soon. They need family to feed.

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  87. This remind me with what my professor said, if 'human resources is the most precious asset in a company, not the stocks or exchange, but the human, without them the company won't working. Give the right for the employee, welfare, when they feel satisfied, they'll feel obligate to do the same for the company, they will work at their best when their right fulfill. And they will have nothing to complains'


    I guess this is can be use for this case, if the staff paid well, like the contract said, I guess they will work better in the future. Who knows when they should made film again, with the same home production... they will reject cause "I worked in there before, but I'm not paid well, I wont work for them again anymore''


    Right and obligation, both have advantage. Hope they unpaid check get pay soon. They need family to feed.

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  88. This remind me with what my professor said, if 'human resources is the most precious asset in a company, not the stocks or exchange, but the human, without them the company won't working. Give the right for the employee, welfare, when they feel satisfied, they'll feel obligate to do the same for the company, they will work at their best when their right fulfill. And they will have nothing to complains'


    I guess this is can be use for this case, if the staff paid well, like the contract said, I guess they will work better in the future. Who knows when they should made film again, with the same home production... they will reject cause "I worked in there before, but I'm not paid well, I wont work for them again anymore''


    Right and obligation, both have advantage. Hope they unpaid check get pay soon. They need family to feed.

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  89. This remind me with what my professor said, if 'human resources is the most precious asset in a company, not the stocks or exchange, but the human, without them the company won't working. Give the right for the employee, welfare, when they feel satisfied, they'll feel obligate to do the same for the company, they will work at their best when their right fulfill. And they will have nothing to complains'


    I guess this is can be use for this case, if the staff paid well, like the contract said, I guess they will work better in the future. Who knows when they should made film again, with the same home production... they will reject cause "I worked in there before, but I'm not paid well, I wont work for them again anymore''


    Right and obligation, both have advantage. Hope they unpaid check get pay soon. They need family to feed.

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  90. This is ridiculous. South Korea really doesn't have that kind of money to be paying lead actresses tens of thousands per episode... staff needs to bring money home too. This time I really agree with the netizens. They should cut the air time since Korean dramas are way too long anyway and focus on the quality more, also minimize the stressful working conditions.

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  91. This is ridiculous. South Korea really doesn't have that kind of money to be paying lead actresses tens of thousands per episode... staff needs to bring money home too. This time I really agree with the netizens. They should cut the air time since Korean dramas are way too long anyway and focus on the quality more, also minimize the stressful working conditions.

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  92. This remind me with what my professor said, if 'human resources is the most precious asset in a company, not the stocks or exchange, but the human, without them the company won't working. Give the right for the employee, welfare, when they feel satisfied, they'll feel obligate to do the same for the company, they will work at their best when their right fulfill. And they will have nothing to complains'


    I guess this is can be use for this case, if the staff paid well, like the contract said, I guess they will work better in the future. Who knows when they should made film again, with the same home production... they will reject cause "I worked in there before, but I'm not paid well, I wont work for them again anymore''


    Right and obligation, both have advantage. Hope they unpaid check get pay soon. They need family to feed.

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  93. Dream High was actually the drama that introduced me to kpop. Before that, i barely knew any grps except for wg and snsd. Even then, 'Nobody' was the only kpop song I knew. But Dream High has introduced me to the world of kpop (idols can sing! And very well, in fact! (you have to admit, the sound track was pretty good)). DH's message of reaching for your dreams also resonated with me. This drama might not have the most stellar cast, but what they lack in acting, they made up for in their chemistry and camaradarie onscreen. Do you know that DH 1 was basically a retelling of the idols' own stories? IU's audition, wooyoung's top spot in the jyp audition. Suzy's lack of emotions/robot persona. DH contains elements of the idols' lives, and that was what made it honest. Not every kdrama dares to explore the dark side of the entertainment industry (rape of female idols and how society condemn the victims) and DH has done it very well. Thanks to DH, i was introduced to the different idols who acted in the show and i became more compelled to find out about them. :) So I guess you don't appreciate the drama, but that does not make the rest of the world having 'bad taste' though! :) DH 1 was good - the ratings and it's worldwide popularity proved that. DH2, however.. :/

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  94. 10k is not cheap for me. If 10k is cheap for you, you must have a good life. Are you comparing it with US' actors' pay? If actor in US get paid for 100k to 250k per episode so whoever get paid 10 times less means they are cheap or the country is poor, that is an ignorant comment. Every country have different purchasing power. The value of USD$10.000 is different in every country.

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  95. But i doubt Suzy gets the full USD10,000 though

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  96. tbh...I think hollywood can just send their worst actors and actresses to korea LOL

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  97. I stopped watching vampire diaries and pretty little liars....the plot was not that interesting lol I watch a lot of reality shows just for laughs at their stupidity

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  98. You sound like a biased weaboo seriously. Only weaboos would say japanese dramas are better than korean ones.

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  99. Leads should get paid on how valuable they are to the show, their skills, and how the audicene likes them. That way you have to act well and not halfass it to get your pay.

    And the big wigs better stop playing with the backstage workers, because when they want to quit after unfair treatment they will. And most will quit with a bang.

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  100. and glowing skin and soft hair. lol

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  101. I want them to have a show like The Following, Mad Men or Smash (or even Glee. I like musical numbers done by the cast ofpopular songs.so sue me)

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  102. letting me go~&gt;~&amp;gtJune 3, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    just want to point out that HIMYM and Big Bang Theory are not dramas; they are sitcoms.

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  103. They drag on because most have been on for years. Days of Our Lives has been on since the 60s for example

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  104. For real. Its like Channel Surfing in the US vs. SK have two different meanings. Here we have too much varity of shows and you just don't know which you want to watch. But there youknow they all follow either one of five storylines you are just channel flipping to see who you want to act out the storyline.

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  105. Secret Life was too much and I wanted to punch Amy more and more with each episode.
    Gossip Girl was good, kept my attention but I skip some people's storylines.
    Lincoln Heights I watched because idk but it was good.
    Pretty Little Liars never really sparked to me.
    Degrassi (I know its Canadian) is like crack to me. Like for some reason I keep going back even though I know none of them can live up to the original (the class with Emma, Manny, JT, Liberty)

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  106. I just finished watching Jungle Fish 2 like 1 week ago, the drama was good, great acting, great theme, and great cast more or less...but I didn't expect that drama to still have unpaid staff till now?!! that drama aired in 2010!!!! that's 3 years ago.... what are the PDs doing? that drama was only 8 episodes and the sets or places they shoot at was most mediocre and recycled so I can't understand how can they still be in such a dept to the staffs.

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  107. A daytime soap and a primetime drama are two very different things, lol

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  108. Oh yeah your right xD Just when I think of dramas I auto think of daytime soaps. Then go to cable.

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  109. its so sad that most of this worlds systems is based for robots and not humans. The staff most get a fair payment even if they are behind the camera

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  110. Some of these dramas are 3 - 4 years old. This isn't right. The staff needs to collectively take legal action against these producers.

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  111. Ratings like 18% are considered pretty high these so I don't know what ur saying! have you seen "that winter the wind blows"? their last episode only had like 19% TWTWB had great script, cinematography, cast, OST, and acting it's like that drama was perfect add also Song Hye Gyo (which holds a nation's goddess title also) and Jo In Sung so even if everyone loves the actors there are still some other factors affecting the drama ratings these days....and also take into consideration that Suzy's acting is meh as well as Lee Yeon Hee... 18% is already a great blessing so are you really expecting their drama to be higher than 20-21%? I guess Lee Seung Gi has that star power BUT his star power can only carry such weights.

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  112. I love you so much right now

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  113. I'm sorry but that depends on what kind of American drama? If it's cable then ur clearly delusional just Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones is better than most of the Japanese drama cliches I've watched...just because Japanese drama have more diversity doesn't mean they're greater...I just watched a J drama my friend recommended me I think the title is "sprout" and the acting was as mediocre just like any K drama out there so just to clarify American Dramas>>>>>>>>Japanese Drama>>>>Korean Drama

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  114. Korea really needs to have more laws or something set for things like this, these dramas ended a while ago & there is no excuse to leave these people unpaid. While I do think that maybe some dramas could use more than 1 season, they have to be careful asking for that. Some shows out here I wish would end because they drag on for so long. They say they want longer shows, but we'll see how they feel when they have a mystery thriller drama that's been on for 3 seasons & we're still not close to finding out who's been torturing the leads. Sorry, I'm ranting about Pretty Little Liars lol I do think they need to stop with having shows with lead rankings, just have a drama with 4 main leads who don't have love triangles. Maybe they should have their own Law & Order type of show, I'd watch that.

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  115. Of course not. Her management gets their cut then she gets the rest

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  116. Some korean films are pieces of art!

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  117. people here attack whoever says he/she prefers this x korean thing over something else, it's insane. The one comment that said japanese dramas are much better is considered valid but not this one...why tho? These are all just opinions

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  118. watching stupid people being stupid is better than those plots of revenge and shit LOL

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  119. exactly. 10 seasons??? I NEED MORE :D apparently the follow up show on joey was pretty crap.

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  120. lmao. and send some of their best ones here for some roles!! i'd love to see won bin in some american films..

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  121. Ugh there is just a lot of koreaboos and weaboos on this site who are so obsessed with anything east asian. American Dramas are far more superior and have lots of variety. But their films are pretty good

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  122. Are seriously complaining about having variety? The fuck?? You have low standards..

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  123. Honestly i think there are too many biased weaboos/koreaboos on these kpop sites. they think everything in east asia is superior..

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  124. I hate seasons. The shows just go on forever and ever and just get shittier as they age. Its the whole reason why I love Kdramas. They are low commitment. I do agree that they should do away with the live shooting system.

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  125. they have been trying to burst her 'bubble' for a while now, saying she is 'boring' and here they aimed at underlining how she didn't deserve that much money when some other get none :o But I agree with you they could have talked about anyone else.

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  126. Gash the staff didn't even get paid throughout the whole shows mentionned above yet they struggled and did their best till the end of the filming T.T it's sad and unfair. Especially for Faith which I remember included really hard and hot working conditions :(
    But when they say that the staff is unpaid in Fugitive Plan B, the actors weren't paid either if I remember, Lee Na young or Rain had tried to sue the production. To me, staff include actors, but netizens seem eager to destroy actors and say they are unworthy :(

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  127. ??? I remember they said that everything she does or any of her members they shared it, like hyuna

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  128. the one in the GI joe movie not good enough for you? lol

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  129. I can't really judge honestly, since everyone have different opinions.

    Some of them may take Asian as their favorite (generally Asian drama was about romance, there's not much conflict except love conflict and some bitching antagonist character), the other some take Western (western provide a lot option in this thing, these days about fantasy, technology, & love too), while the others of others like me prefer general (I like anything as long as it's good for my taste). It's all basic on taste.



    But yeah, agree with you, u can't said if this one better while the other not, cause not all people have the same taste.

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  130. Watch games of thrones awesome show but if you only watch romance then I can't help you

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  131. Charlie sheen was awesome in that show to bad he was such an asshole

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  132. yeah! thats what im wondering!
    do they not have unions for these things?

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  133. I am a romance addict and I don't watch tv that often anymore..I watch my shows through viki app on android XD

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  134. I read Yoon Eun Hye gets paid 50'000 plus per episode but the thing is, I heard that she is also known for being unselfish, like in her drama Vineyard Man, they were gonna pay her lots of money, but she refused the offered amount, because she knew that the other staff were suffering. She even helped the production make costumes and props to help them cut down on the cost. I think that's why PD's & drama staffs always say after each project, that she is by far the best actress that they've ever worked with is because of her positive and selfless attitude.

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  135. Just another netizenJune 3, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    WTF...who the hell would work for no pay...a majority of people wouldn't. There needs to be some lawsuit action going on. This isn't right, at all.

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  136. MTE! There are shows in my country that are on for around 20 years now? or even longer? IDEK.
    Seriously.. 16~25 episodes are perfect!

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  137. 내가 제일 잘나가June 3, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    American Dramas and British Dramas are my love. I even love Anime.


    Don't get me wrong I love the cheese in the standard kdrama otherwise I wouldn't watch them and I am always some what impressed with the cinematography but can you imagine Korea doing a American Horror Story, Black Mirror, Misfits or Breaking Bad (LOL).


    As much as I enjoy them, the only kdramas that has actually left a deep impression on me is School 2013 and Reply 1997 (my love for Reply is insane)

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  138. It's ridiculous that the staff still works eventhough they don't get paid. oô

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  139. 내가 제일 잘나가June 3, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    Got to admit though the cinematography in Asian movies (esp.Chinese) is mind blowing.

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  140. I don't think any of those dramas have idol leads and they are still blaming idols

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  141. I wasn't complaining. I was saying I have a really hard time choosing what I want to watch because there are so many opitions. Like I watched two shows at once at times because both sparks to me. While when it comes to KDramas their storylines are easy to tell and all I have to figure out who do I want to see act the storyline out more.

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  142. you work but you don't get paid! wow what is this, are they slave!
    what happen with you korean or specifically K ent industry korean.
    I quess in the end the one who work on this field just the one who need popularity not money since you can't use this job as your main source for your money income

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  143. I watched Passions religiously back in the day. Passions was so weird that you couldn't stop watching it.

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  144. You should come to Greece and see how it's done. Most people are unemployed and people that work don't get paid for months. Korea has the same surviving issues with us. There are not enough jobs for everyone and the salary is not good enough, that's why they still work regardless of getting paid or not. Better have some work and hope to be paid of that not have one.

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  145. It's a waste, imo, because a lot of the dramas have similar plots. American dramas, at least, are all quite different from one another. Like no one would get Game of Thrones, Dexter, Sex and the City, and CSI mixed up.

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  146. SUPERNATURAL!!! ^__^

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  147. jungle fish2 wow that in 2010 right?? ckvkb

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  148. not really .their actors are really awful and a lot of their dramas are weird and sucks .

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  149. Korea Glee is good idea...

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  150. yup Hannibal is fucking good lol........Another one my favorite series is Suits :D

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  151. OfficialKARALoverJune 3, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    That's K-drama ...

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  152. I'd personally hate to see Kdramas shift to a format whereby they dragged shit out for 5-7 seasons like they do in the US.

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  153. Attacking Suzy again. <_< As if she has a say on how much she gets paid. Doesn't that lie in the hands of her management & the company who wants her for the drama? And US $10,000 is peanuts compared to what American drama actors get paid but of course since this is Korea it's a big deal to for them to see an idol actress whom they love to hate on get paid that much. Oh well.

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  154. well it depends on the competiton too. i couldn't remember what drama but there were many good and popular dramas airing at the same time as K2H

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  155. agree, west seriest slay every countries series by far, well its normal since hollywood is the most advance film industry. i wonder why people neg me. i mean its really obvious lol

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  156. i know im wrong, but i just try generelizing all series for simplyfying the topic. coz if we look technical koreans dont have any good sitcom, or multi genre drama such GOT, TWD, etc

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  157. no, I liked K2H but they just didn't watch it because of the plot not because of competition, they felt the plot was nosense...

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  158. 10. [+43, -0] We need to turn it into a law that all dramas must be produced prior to airing. It's ridiculous to me that casts are given their scripts the day of filming. How can you expect any sort of quality when people are working under such tight conditions like that? Having a fully produced drama will raise the stakes for investors and promote competition since they know what they'll be getting into if the quality's good.

    Agreed! I seriously don't like how they wait for the audiences feedback before writing the next script. Yeah they may not like the outcome, but I kind of like that it's not based on what people think of it.

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  159. IDK Seasons are great for the most part, I mean if you really like the show you'd be willing to continue watch it for how long it is anyway. And also if the show is really doing bad - no more seasons, simple as that versus a Kdrama style of 'this many episodes must air even if viewer ratings drop'.

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  160. what the heck. jungle fish aired super long ago. and didn't Rain and the some other actors sue the production team for Fugitive Plan B for not being paid? and they still haven't paid up? whats with this industry seriously.

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  161. And no one would get Reply 1997, Sungkyunkwan Scandal, Iris and bridal mask mixed up either

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  162. I think you should give korean movies a go, they're aweosme (nothing like kdramas)

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  163. No. Greece's situation is not comparable with korea, the crisis hasn't hit hard there

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  164. 10. [+43, -0] We need to turn it into a law that all dramas must be produced prior to airing. It's ridiculous to me that casts are given their scripts the day of filming. How can you expect any sort of quality when people are working under such tight conditions like that? Having a fully produced drama will raise the stakes for investors and promote competition since they know what they'll be getting into if the quality's good.


    I don't know about a law (it would take too long IMO), but broadcasting companies should agree to have some requirements/standards that production companies have to adhere to if they want to have their drama broadcast - such as to have a drama pre-filmed or something along those lines, as well as refusing to work with production companies that have not paid workers for previous dramas.


    I feel really sorry for the people who get into this line of work - they must know that the pay is crappy, but love it regardless. It's an insult to their hardwork to not pay them, especially given how little their pay is.

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  165. [+151, -13] Suddenly reminds me of the Suzy fans who were going around
    bragging about how Suzy makes $10,000 USD per episode ㅋ Does it make you
    proud that she receives that much for her crappy acting?


    U sir should be the president of Korea

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  166. So true!!! The nerve. >_>

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  167. I thought I'm the only one who thinks Netizen should not add Suzy in the comment 'cause it's not necessary!!! Like seriously? None of any of her dramas is in the list and SUZY's not the only leading lady in the KDrama WORLD! For Godsake!

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  168. 내가 제일 잘나가June 5, 2013 at 8:11 AM

    Can you give me a list please? I would love too ^.^

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  169. agree! they should mention Lee Minho or Rain :3

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  170. To be fair most of those you mentioned are cable dramas, which are able to be more edgy.

    The dramas on broadcast TV in the states is getting just as predictable 1) teen drama (Vampire diaries 90201 etc) 2) soap opera stuff like Mistresses, Desperate houswives 3) crime dramas, law and order, nypd blue, etc of course there are good shows still out there, but western dramas that air on broadcast can be just as mundane

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  171. Yeah and he's been doing that by playing movie since every 5 years or something...

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  172. And you yourself think you're not one of them by attacking them using your godly American dramas...lol

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